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Argh Fuck Kill [Feb. 28th, 2004|08:30 pm]
Tkil
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Computers hate me.

I have a colocated server, and I have yet to have a drive last longer than 8-10 months in the damned thing. (That includes a swap of everything; after the meltdown last spring, I built a whole new box for it.) That drive died sometime in the last few days.

Sigh. At least my friend will try to do recovery off it. Not too much very valuable stuff on there, but...

What the hell do I have to do, to get drives that will last?
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[User Picture]From: zakharov
2004-02-29 05:13 am (UTC)
RAID. (Redundant Array of Inexpensive Discs)

A Raid has five categories, but essentially, it's a series of drives that work together either for speed (RAID 0) or total backup (RAID 5).

That should help. One RAID disc fails, swap it out with another.

Your welcome. ^_^
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[User Picture]From: tkil
2004-02-29 05:47 am (UTC)

Raiders of the lost bits...

Yeah, I’m thinking about going RAID. Of course, to do it right, I need to get drives from different manufacturers, or at least different lots — I’ve read stories about substantial portions of an array going out within hours of each other, due to similarities within a given batch.

Sigh. Just one more bit of tech that I wasn’t expecting to have to deal with quite this soon, as I just deployed it less than a year ago.
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[User Picture]From: lordsauron
2004-02-29 05:52 am (UTC)
He's right. RAID will save you tons heartache and grief. I do not know how to setup RAID since I've not had the need for such usage, but I've heard of it's advantages.

What kind of drives are you using? I've had my 20 GB drive for nearly 4 years. I hardly shut off the computer too. I hear Western Digital makes quality drives. This Maxtor drive I'm using seems to be quite top notch.
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[User Picture]From: tkil
2004-02-29 06:52 am (UTC)

Drive manufacturers, etc

Well, there simply aren’t all that many options left these days: Western Digital, Maxtor, and Hitachi. Any others? Is Seagate still around?

And the drive that died most recently was either Maxtor or Western Digital.

I’ll investigate building a heterogeneous RAID for that machine.
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[User Picture]From: zakharov
2004-02-29 07:55 am (UTC)

Re: Drive manufacturers, etc

Seagate is the best, in my opinion. But yeah, if your hard drive was from one of those manufacturers, it wouldn't surprise me it failed. :P
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[User Picture]From: weilok
2004-03-01 12:22 am (UTC)
hell if I know I can't even get simple programs like Quiktime to work for me so I can see the trailer of Chiz's. Computers hate me too.
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[User Picture]From: tkil
2004-03-02 08:43 pm (UTC)

Greetings, citizen! The computer is your friend!

... except when they hate you and want you dead. Somewhat surprised to see that it’s QuickTime, though; usually it runs fine (but getting rid of it is a whole ’nother story...)

How much longer in sunny England?
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[User Picture]From: crossfire
2004-03-01 01:18 am (UTC)
(At first I misparsed that to read "I have a chocolate server...")

My production servers all have SCSI RAIDs of various configurations. I'm not convinced that IDE drives are a better choice in a server configuration because they don't seem to be designed to handle the heavy constant use.

Also, you might want to check the temperature of your rack in the colo. It's entirely possible you're getting heat from somewhere else that's speeding up the death of the drives.
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[User Picture]From: tkil
2004-03-02 08:41 pm (UTC)

Low-end colocation

(At first I misparsed that to read "I have a chocolate server...")

Hm. Freudian lips?

Thanks for the reminder about SCSI. I’ve thought about going with “server drives” but I have been hesitant, as it’s only a toy box anyway. (And by “co-located”, I really mean ”located at my friend nirikrss’s place [in Broomfield] because he has DSL and already has a few machines”.)

I suspect that I’ll see what I can do for data recovery on this drive, then try to build a heterogeneous RAID stack (or maybe just have another drive in the machine, and periodically spin it up, write to it, then spin it down...)

Thanks for the ideas, though.
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[User Picture]From: batbuds
2004-03-10 05:17 am (UTC)
My suggestion is to see if you can get ahold of an inexpensive Compaq or Dell server with either a integrated RAID controller or a RAID card (most of these servers will have them). How much disk space is required? That will determine what model you should get. To have RAID 5, you will need at least 3 drives. Setup the HARDWARE RAID 5 using the smartstart CD that comes with Compaq machines (I am not sure what the setup utility is called with Dell). You can point and click setup your hardware in about 5 minutes using the utility!

You can usually find these systems either at company auctions, or electronics resale shops..... Take your friend along to help you choose a good machine for your needs... also to help carry the sucker if you find one! COMPAQ SERVERS ARE FREAKING HEAVY!!!!

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